THIS AMAZING CASE & STORY - 2002

Elizabeth Baron Draws The Beltway Sniper on National Radio

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The Beltway Sniper Case

Elizabeth Baron Provides Clues on Radio Broadcast

Elizabeth Baron: I was on the radio one morning in October, 2002 at 6:30am ET - a national radio show called "American Breakfast with Phil Paleologos." The talk show host asked me to tell him anything I could about the "Beltway sniper."  I told him that I had drawn this sketch of one of the snipers (see below) but that I had put a star on the right near his shoulder.  However, I didn't really know what the star meant. To my surprise, Phil said, "Well, the star was the code that John Muhammad used to communicate by letter to the police.  I believe in one of the letters he used four stars but that was the way the police knew that it was the real sniper who was writing the letters."

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Here is some of the transcript of our conversation on November 7, 2002:

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Phil:  Do you still feel that there are other people other than these two involved in the Sniper murders?

Elizabeth:  Yes, I believe they are going to continue to uncover bodies in other parts of the country that these snipers have killed.

Phil:  Anything else you would like to tell us about the snipers before we move on?

Elizabeth:  Well, when you had asked me to come on before, I had drawn a picture of this boy, Malvo.  I didn’t draw a picture of the other guy because I was just fiddling around and not really working on the case, you know.

Phil:  Right.

Elizabeth:  But it's really interesting that I put down that he was half black and half Spanish. I said, 'He’s very very young.'  Then I put a star over to the left of the boy’s sketch.  Then I said, 'This star may mean that one of these men may be American born or may have been in the military.'  I don’t know why because I never related the star like that; but then I wrote, 'riding in a blue car with a partner - looks something like my car.'  Remember me saying that?

Phil:  Yes, I do. 

Elizabeth:  But the sketch I drew doesn’t look exactly like Malvo but his ears are identical.  He has really strange ears.

Phil:  The stars (for those who have been following this case)... the stars were the identification these two murderers used to communicate with police.

Elizabeth:  Oh, they did?

Phil:  Yes, they did.

Elizabeth:  I didn’t know that.

Phil:  Elizabeth, yes!

Elizabeth:  I put that star on Malvo’s right shoulder.

Phil:  He drew either four or five stars.

Elizabeth:  Well, remember, I told you before that I heard five gunshots outside my window and then I came in here and drew this star.

Phil:  Yes, as a matter of fact, the note they found at the Ponderosa in Richmond, VA had a lot of this communication with the stars and it is just very very coincidental that you would put a star up there.

Elizabeth:  Well, Phil, maybe you and I should get together and solve these murders (laughs) because we were just doing this off the cuff.

Phil:  Well, that was the beauty of all of this.